Until you want to make Monks of course, then transition onto gold. Most o 30 of them? 19,886 games. Created by Siege … As such, they lack any access to horses and with it, access to cavalry, including Cavalry Archers. They are still top tier :). All in all there is the one strategical fact to mention: AoE2 is not an eco simulator, it´s not about a booming contest. This discussion will be nice and smooth hopefully (with as little typos as possible). In contrast, they have eagles to counter your 45HP monks. Home; Guides; Discussion; News; Must Haves; Age of Empires 2 DE Tier List – Best Civilizations in the game. Mandatum. But 1v1 they are still legit. This is because villagers can collect more resources and they have 50 extra gold at the start of the game. Which one do you think is better or just more practical? Also im assuming this is non mirror 1v1 ara, Generally speaking, you can fight with vills against 3militias. Made by hszemi, Anda, exterkamp, paulirish, lalitpatel, with thanks to Jineapple, TriRem, pip, and NkoDragaš The Turks are a gunpowder civilization and arguably have the best units there that have greater range, are created faster, and have more hit points. The difference between Aztecs and other civs is lower after the techs are researched, but it's still about a minute faster to gather 500 resources after that. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The Aztecs are very specialized, but very hard to counter. Unique Unit: Boyar Boyar being the unique unit has nothing to do with infantry, instead it’s a heavy cavalry unit. A project by Siege Engineers.Contribute on GitHub. Especially the lack of the Elite Skirmisher and Pikeman can hurt at times. Sep 30, 2013 2,017 861 128 Copenhagen www.twitch.tv Voobly SaladEsc View profile Ladder RM - 1v1 Rating 1803 Wins 98 Losses 97 Streak-3. Incan ones have the minimum range reduced, which in my opinion isn't as strong as the aztec +1 atk and range, since you are never gonna use skirms to fight vs melee units, maybe only useful vs halbs in trash wars, aztec ones engage archers faster than others cos they see them before. But every economy is only worth as much as the military it supports. What I am saying for a non-mirror matchup there is no 'standard' counter. •Jaguar Warrior (UU: Anti-infantry infantry.). It doesn't matter that Aztecs don't have heavy imperial units, if they are in imperial age when you are in castle age. My girlfriend created a town center in The Sims. Please do something with this. Their free Loom frees up gold in the Dark Age, allowing them to train five Militiawithout having to task any villagers to mine gold. What strategies can you use with their faster production? The entire Aztec army is composed of infantry. Around 10 to 15% more resources gathered in the same time as non aztecs. 7 297 Views 738K. If you have any saved games of the current patch where this is happening, please do send them to the email given above. Dark age - 5 militia rush (Drush) Early Imperial Age - Elite Eagle Rush. Thread starter SaladEsc; Start date Nov 17, 2019; Sidebar Sidebar. save. Overall the Spanish team bonus is probably better but this one is still one of the top ones on Arena. And next week, the discussion will be on the Malay. ", and that was why I thought they were the best 11. They are picked loads and playing them makes me feel like a cheater and a tier whore. Aztecs. Hmm, that's actually a really good idea! 4.84 % +4%. Feel free to ask any questions, discuss strategies, make jokes, or say anything about them as you wish! This gives all of their infantry massive attack compared to those of other civilizations. Once in the imperial age the game opens up for the Aztecs, garland wars makes their infrantry extremely strong, while having the option of using their extremely strong monks against the cavalry units, also their siege even without having halberdier the pikemen with garland wars are nearly as effective in protection of the siege. However, in the castle age they also have monks which can essentially invalidate their lack of cavalry. Aztec Victory achievement in Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition (Win 10): Won a game playing as the Aztecs - worth 5 Gamerscore Aztecs and Incas get Knights in AoE2:DE. Detailed data and statistics, including win rate and play rate, on the Aztecs civilization in Age of Empires II in the 1v1 Random Map ladder across all Elo. Their Champions have 21 attack! Become a premium member..... SaladEsc Champion. Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition celebrates the 20th anniversary of one of the most popular strategy games ever with stunning 4K Ultra HD graphics, a new and fully remastered soundtrack, and brand-new content, “The Last Khans” with 3 new campaigns and 4 new civilizations. Anyone has successfully tried this? I personally hate the Aztecs. How would you rank it in power among team bonuses? However, Slavs have access to a powerful unique research that grants splash damage to all infantry units. I suppose missing Archer final armor puts them really behind as well. Aztecs. These assume you are … It doesn't sound like it should be so powerful, but it kinda is. In open maps aztec probably have an edge over mayans (source: Theviper) but if you are even when you both are well in imperial age, you should be able to win as mayans, just make elite eagles/elite plums, rams and add eagle/plume to counter the counter azt will make(SO or champ/jaguar) How do Aztec Skirmishers compare to other American civ skirmishers and the Vietnamese? The Aztecs are strong in the siege weapon department with Siege Rams, Siege Onagers, and Siege Engineers. So Aztec eagles are actually worse than Mayan ones in basically every scenario. Exactly how powerful is the Aztec eco bonus? Creating military units 18% faster is such a stupid idea for a bonus IMO, I have no idea what the devs were thinking. Create new draft from this Preset Customise this Preset. And the major thing is that, let's say you generally don't get Wheelbarrow in the first 15 minutes, while Aztecs have the equivilent of wheelbarrow from the first second. That +5 carrying helps ease my mind 11. Regardless, the extra gold allows you to go for the famous 5 militia drush, which is incredibly powerful and you should probably do it on any open land map. #8. Still strong just not yolo strong. Lets think about a non-mirror matchup. They also lack any sort of good defenses with no hoardings, masonry, or architecture, so the Aztec player will really want to end the game in early imperial where they are strongest. but lets be honest, it was pretty poorly constructed. /u/Majike03 Advice for future civ discussions, include the balance changes from conquerors aswell in your post. Aztecs with Vietnam allies: best skirmishes in the game - imperial + 1 range + 1 attack. Remove ads? I mean, I can see benefits to both. Garland Wars gives you very powerful infantry, particularly eagle warriors, and Atlatl makes their skirmishers not top-tier, but at least competitive in the late game. AoE2.net does not verify players. How does the Jaguar Warrior compare to the Longswordsman - Champion and other militia-line-like UUs (like Samurai, Berserkers, Huskarls, etc...). Once you have found a scenario you’re interested in downloading and installing in the Age of Empires: Definitive Edition, follow the below instructions. Less idle time for yourself, while drushing them. I hope you all enjoyed this discussion on the Aztecs! I always chose the Aztecs when I was little because "Holy shit! I have no idea why they decided to make the Aztecs create all military units faster; it's not even supposed to be 18% faster, it's supposed to be 15%, but the devs were bad at math. The Aztecs are a Native American civilization. If I remember correctly, Aztecs were constantly picked or banned in KotD3, but are barely seeing play in the world cup. Ricardo Filho 6,324 views. What can you do with the extra gold? The majority of Aztec military units are unique to the civilization, with the exception of Canoes and War Canoes. Then go aggressive. The Eco bonus is amazing. They're also cheaper and made from barracks, but I see how Jags would be much more cost effective with their extra HP, armor, speed, and huge bonus. Aztecs don't have the last archer armor upgrade, but this essentially adds another archer attack upgrade; is the trade-off better, worse, or about the same? the Aztec drush doesn't make for an effective response. Trying to climb the ranked ladder. I'm personally impatient with deer, so I'm pretty shitty at luring them. Today, the discussion will be about AoC's most drushable civ, the Aztecs! Hi, everyone. Their infantry units are the strongest of the game and can be generated 18 percent faster. •(Team Bonus: Relics generate 33% more gold.). Which makes sense considering Cortez smashed them with 300 conquistadors and 1000 general infantry, World Cup is on the pervious game version I'm pretty sure. It would require quite a bit of testing and balancing IMO. Patch: 40220; Ladder: 1v1 Random Map. Regarding the eco bonus: I like it the best when hunting. Its funny after writing this, its also kinda clear that Aztecs are in some sense the antithesis of the huns. Hopefully, someone who has the ability to get the process of fixing this issue started reads this post, and the issue gets fixed in the near future. It is one of the fastest growing civilizations alongside the Chinese, for example. This collection will be listed all the units VS everything that given hidden bonus attack. The collection below is showing the data of Expansions scale. If you can afford it though, Druzhina will make your infantry armies particularly formidable. Aztecs Berbers Britons Burmese Byzantines Celts Chinese Ethiopians Franks Goths Huns Incas Indians Italians Japanese Khmer Koreans Magyars Malay Malians Mayans Mongols Persians Portuguese Saracens Slavs Spanish Teutons Turks Vietnamese Vikings Bulgarians Cumans Lithuanians Tatars. However, you cant fight against 5. Verified Players are high level or other well known players in the community and their smurf accounts. Not saying that it can't be countered. Without a stable at all, you are very likely to see an Aztec opponent go for a 5 militia drush into either a fast castle with xbows, monks, and siege, or a delayed version where they make archers in the feudal age. report. It's weird to think how gold-intensive their army is even though they don't have any gunpowder units. Team games they lack good pocket options cause Eagles are squishy, and they lack Thumb Ring which makes them less effective as flank compared to other archer civs. Very important issue! Their monks are a constant thorn in my side and my friends side when we play together. It does cost 1200 Food and 500 Gold, which is a heavy price to pay and severely affects this civilization’s rankings. It means they spend 50% more time working before they walk back to return their resources; of course that doesn't mean it's a 50% improvement but it's still great nonetheless, mainly for Lumberjacks and Farmers, not so much miners. But I still don't know. Elo: All. It's just that I became more knowledgeable and into the game recently thanks to the HD expansions, so I'm pretty biased for the newer things (especially since the only thing I did in AoC was spam Champs and Paladins in front of a sea of walls and towers). If opponent for some reason decides to do infratry units jaguar warriors are extremely strong against other infratry giving Aztecs easy and effective answer to a weird situation like that. Share this preset: Copy. Tutorial of the most effective counters to every unique unit in Age of Empires 2. AOE2 is my most favorite game, I love this game so so much. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. You can do it with Persians but aside from them it's not worth doing it imo. The Aztecs are probably one of the best civs to look at to understand how aoe2 MP is played. Explore all the original campaigns like never before as well … Continued When would you get this tech and would you do it before or after Blast Furnace? If you come into the multiplayer game as a newbie who is fresh from playing campaigns, you probably wouldn't draw the conclusion that Aztecs were one of the best 1 v 1 Arabia civs. But, I find it hard to recommend it to others because of the disconnection issue the game has. Also, Atlatl is 400 Food and 350 Gold; it gives you +1 range and +1 attack. At 28 minutes into the game, elite eagles with their pierce armor make immortal raiding units that are immune to tc fire. This gives them one of the strongest economies in the game. Their feudal and castle are predictable, due to the lack of cavalry they will go into archers. It should be decreased to only 15% in the next patch IMO, Yes. One of the things I've noticed about in AOC is that the best 1 v 1 Arabia civs are the 'fastest' civs. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. 61 comments. So all in all due to lack of stables their only valid options for feudal and castle age strategies are archers or fast castle into monks. So in this sense their team bonus is very fitting giving them extra gold to help with the extreme gold cost of their units. Great 1v1 civ, not as amazing in team game because of lategame weaknesses. The Aztecs are both very powerful and fairly predictable. +5 HP per Monk tech is ridiculous especially as any civ would be likely to research Sanctity and Fervor and/or Redemption when Monk rushing, so that already put their Monks up to at least 55 HP. 1:18. save . Aztecs just never have been as good in TGs as they are in 1v1s. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. He wololo'd me too. If you missed any previous discussions, here they are: <3 Aztec monks, One time I got Aztecs on megarandom with those humongous (basically infinite) gold piles and made nothing but monks and Wololo'd my way to victory, I was a hater of the Aztecs. I'd recommend them to anyone learning how to play Arabia. Result means no gold skirmishes which are better than archers - you can focus your gold on eagle warriors and siege. Age of Empires 2 ... [AoE2] - Duration: 9:17. The Aztecs are one the classically strongest civs in all of AoC, and despite some small nerfs in the expansions, they remain a very powerful choice on any land map. Current win rate: 50.33%. Their unit creation bonus is pretty much a half-conscription that applies to siege, the monk and relic bonuses give you top tier monks, as well as the incentive to go for them as Aztecs lack cavalry. 71 comments. Cookies help us deliver our Services. The only thing I like about them is the Jaguar Warrior because a unit that is not used much automatically becomes one of my favorite units just because I like doing different and creative stuff; the Aztecs are the best civilization in the game both on Arabia and Arena (and they also get Siege Onagers so in AoC they are good on Black Forest too). But on Arena you can also abuse it by skipping Loom altogether and not mining gold to start off, but instead sell your wood or stone (most likely stone) to get over 200 gold to advance to Castle Age without building a Mining Camp or having vills mine gold. Spirit Of The Law Recommended for you. +5 resource carriage is very good, it helps more than you'd think it would. Well, it's essentially in there to make sure that the Aztecs can still do their 5 Militia drush, since the expansions removed their free Loom. Love you all. •Atlatl (Castle UT: Skirmishers get +1 attack and +1 range.). Way too tanky IMO, it should be decreased to +3 HP per tech so then they'd end up with 75 HP when fully upgraded instead of the ridiculous 95 HP originally. Now I know what some of you may be thinking, "Majike03, there was already a civ discussion on the Aztecs." TEKNOGYHAD. With +10 bonus damage to infantry, how does it do compared to Handcannoneers and Slingers? In 1v1s it basically just rips off all of the other bonuses like "Archery Ranges work 20% faster" or most notably the Goths' "Barracks work 20% faster" which would ideally give the Goths a good Dark Age rush because their Militia create faster, but the Aztecs is just about on the same level and even better because of the better eco bonus and starting with +50 gold. Yeah, it's probably for the better that Mayans have normal skirms. The Aztecs are probably one of the best civs to look at to understand how aoe2 MP is played. 2.8k. Exactly how powerful is the Aztec eco bonus? This slightly increases the collection rate for most resources, and really really benefits farmers, especially before wheelbarrow and hand cart. Each of these civilizations feature different units, bonuses, technologies and a focus on a set of unit upgrades to make them even stronger. If you end up in a situation where you need units to raid with Aztecs do have the extremely arrow tolerant eagle warriors who will two or three shot villagers. •Monks' HP increases by 5 every time you research a tech at the Monastery. It's basically the equivilent of Wheelbarrow and Hand Cart, and since they have those, it stacks. If you saw the Saracen Civ Discussion, then you would know this, if you haven't seen the Saracen or any other discussion we've had, I'll have a link at the end. If you come into the multiplayer game as a newbie who is fresh from playing campaigns, you probably wouldn't draw the conclusion that Aztecs were one of the best 1 v 1 Arabia civs. Just not the best archer civ missing thumb ring. Usually a pro player will counter a drush, but drush themselves. But 1v1 they are still legit. Think about what happens in most pro games. Conquering the Aztecs. Dark Age - Drush. The monk bonuses also make sure that the best counter to their monks once upgraded are other monks, but they have the better monks. share. +1 attack and range is more impactful for a ranged unit than +1/+2 armor however missing that pierce armor is still unfortunate because it means that opposing archers (which you will use skirms to counter) deal significantly more damage to them. The +50 gold is a slight nerf from AoC as you actually have to research loom, but is a slight buff on maps like Arena where you do not need to research loom right away. Kosten pro Einheit ... 20 Nahrung + 50 Gold: Der Adlerkrieger ist eigentlich die Zweite Special-Einheit, da er nur den Azteken und den Maya zur Verfügung steht.Er wird in der Kaserne (Ritterzeit) erschaffen und hat eine sehr hohe Sichtweite (besser als Späher). However, once gold starts to run low, their very good eagles, monks, and siege all become much more difficult to produce, and their pikes are actually worse against cavalry than generic halbs. Posted by 3 days ago. Their unique technology, Garland Wars, increases the attack of all infantry by four. You can beneficially pull a vill and then you'll essentially be +1 army meaning youll win easy. This extra range is e… That is until I watched TheViper micro Aztec super monks and wololo everything, absolutely everything. World Cup is played on the patch from before the anniversary update, so that change isn't applied for these games. Win Rate. Just don't pick them on water for obvious reasons. My next civ overview is going to be over the Malay so I can't put it into practice, but next time I do an AoK ir AoC civ, I'll list the changes. I hate how similar the production is to other civs. Their mounted units, however, are great. Aztecs have a unique early game rush : the 5 militia drush. Or leave two to help defend? Seriously. •Garland Wars (Imperial UT: +4 attack given to all infantry). How beneficial is this bonus? Their drush is definitely one of the best if not the best in the game. Oh right, that really makes sense. This, combined with their faster military buildings, allows them to perform a Dark Age rush more effectively than other civilizations. Their unique unit, the Jaguar Warrior, benefits greatly from this. Mayan ones generic FU Elite Skirmisher nothing special. But the Aztecs thankfully have the Jaguar Warrior, which is a hard counter to the Champion, so jags+eagles make a great combination unless your opponent has a mass of Hand Cannoneers. 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